1942-1944
Internment
LT
Dorothy Still Danner, NC, USN
When the Japanese came they rounded
up all the Allied civilians and sent
them to the University of Santo Tomas.
Although there were some 66 classrooms
in the main building, there were still
too many people. It was just a mess.
The toilet facilities were overwhelmed
and sickness began almost overnight.
With Japanese permission, the civilians
formed an administration committee
and appointed a leader. Soon the civilians
set up a school for the children,
entertainment, and a newsletter, among
other things. Santo Tomas was used
as a model by the Japanese. They allowed
the Swiss delegates to see Santo Tomas,
not the POW camps or the other civilian
camps.
I
was sent to Santo Tomas on March 8,
1942. However, the medical facilities
there were still lacking. There was
a little hospital set up in what had
been a mechanical engineering building.
The doctors brought in medicine from
their offices. A lot of lab technicians
and pharmacists apparently had their
own means of bringing drugs in then
through Red Cross funds. By the time
we got there, they had revamped the
rest rooms and had put in showers.
Soon Santo Tomas became too crowded
as the Japanese kept bringing people
in. They decided to move part of the
camp out of Manila. Therefore, they
selected a site near the town of Los
Banos to house some of the overflow.
Camp
O'Donnell
Ruben Flores
We had a burial routine. The same
routine, burying POWS everyday, everyday.
We would dig trenches with bulldozers,
as wide as the bulldozer plate would
go. And that day we would go with
the bodies, the ones that died the
day before. We'd throw them in. The
Japanese were always with us. They
wouldn't let them place us. You get
them from their feet, the other from
their arms. Any way they'd fall.
There were several days that we would
bury 30, 40, 50. There was one time
I remember that we buried over 75.
At that time, the one time we buried
the most, the hole wasn't deep enough
for all of them. But the Japanese
wanted us to throw them all in there.
They'd come with the bulldozers and
throw the dirt over them. The next
day - it was monsoon season, raining
all the time. The next day, we'd go
out there to bury others. The ones
we buried yesterday or the day before
some would have their feet sticking
out, their hands gnawed by wild animals,
and the water that would lay on top
would be as red as can be from the
blood from where the animals would
eat their flesh.
Our own doctors [at the POW camps],
they didn't have any medicine. For
dysentery, you know what the doctors
would give you? They would burn a
log, or logs and then with a piece
of glass off a broken bottle, you'd
scrap off the black stuff, take that
and scrap it out and [they'd] give
it to us with a spoon. You know that
would help for dysentery.
Prison
camps
Mike Pulice
After Corregidor surrendered about
the middle of June they loaded all
of us patients onto trucks and drove
us to Manila, to Bilibid prison. I
was there from about the middle of
June to the middle of August. About
the first week of August they took
us up to Cabanatuan. That was my second
camp. While I was at Bilibid, this
Filipino that took care of me in the
hospital. He used to come by - they
used to let the Filipinos come into
camp and sell fried bananas. I conned
him into staying in my place and I'd
go out and stay with his folks and
buy medicine on the outside. So I
had quinine pills and sulphur powder
[an anti-biotic]. I guess that's one
of the reasons why I survived. Oh,
I shared that medicine. For one thing,
we all took care of each other. We
traded cigarettes. Since I didn't
smoke I'd trade them for something
to eat. I'd be gone a couple of days
from Bilibid and I would stay with
his parents on a riverboat on the
Pasig river, right in the middle of
town. I'd come back and show the ID
and they'd wave me right on in and
then he'd come out.
In
October 1942 they sent 500 of us to
the island of Mindanao. If we wanted
meat for camp, during our lunch break,
the guys would say we haven't had
any meat in quite a while. And someone
else would say, "Let's fix that."
So we’d hobble one of them [a
carabao] in the deeper parts of the
water and he'd drown. We'd start screaming
and after I took the hobbles off it
and they'd let us take it into camp.
We'd butcher it. One carabao made
a little stock for soup and that was
about it. If there was any fruit or
something around, we could slip stuff
into camp that you would never imagine
- like a chicken. You'd just give
it one twist and be quick and it wouldn't
squawk anymore. You'd put it in your
raincoat. They'd always frisk you.
But you'd put it in your coat and
hold it out and they didn't look in
the raincoat. If it didn't show, you
didn't have anything. We'd cut the
bottom off our canteen and with pitch
from the trees we'd put it back on
leaving space at the bottom. We could
get in with anything!
We had two or three radios in camp.
We had one in the barracks were in.
I helped hollow out one of the columns
in the barracks. We hollowed that
sucker out and it was the hiding place
for the radio. At night our barracks
chief would get it out and write everything
that was said. We knew where we were
all the time. Rumors were the biggest
thing in camp, just like any organization.
When we were first surrendered, they'd
say I think we're going to get some
reinforcements. Before the surrender
the Filipinos would say, "Joe,
we heard MacArthur's coming back."
Oh yeah, ... heck it was just guys
that had been surrendered in Singapore
or Shanghai or Malaysia.
Clifford
Martinez
They were taking us to what they called
Cabanatuan One Prison Camp. And I
marched, I guess almost half way,
and finally gave out, so they threw
me up on a truck.
And we come up to this camp, now the
three buddies of mine, Professor Lee,
Shorty Jordan, and this other guy.
We got in the truck. I was told later
these guys, instead of turning to
the camp they kept going. They picked
them up about five miles down the
road and they beat the hell out of
them and they asked them what they
were doing. Well, they said the war's
over we're looking for a job. So they
brought them back, tied them to posts
in a standing squat position, beat
the hell out of them, every time they
turned around. They held them there
for four or five days. Then they got
the whole camp, like this, they dragged
them down made them dig their own
grave, which wasn't very deep. You
weren't able to dig very deep. And
they made them stand up and they shot
them. So when they were filling the
graves, the officer came down and
coup-de-grace three of them. Well,
that was the first killing that I'd
seen, in prison camp.
But
they gave us half a mess kit of rice
kind of soupy stuff and a one canteen
cup of water a day. And nobody could
take a bath or anything else. And
I was constipated, I got constipated.
I went approximately six days without
a bowel movement. Well, there was
a bunch of us that way. So finally
one of the guys come in off details,
they had details going out in another
camp down the road. So he came back,
I told him "Damn I wish I could
shit," you know. He says "Hey,
I got some caramel pony sugar, eat
some of it. That'll make you go".
What it was a clump like this about
[5 inches] around and [1 inch] thick.
What it was, it was scrapings off
the top where they boil, make sugar.
So, I ate about damn near half of
it. I guess about 10 or 12 hours later
I got a pain. At the end of the hill
they had ditches dug, nothing covering
it, just ditches.
So I started running down that hill
and there was little ditch like this
and I came down like that and I just
shit all over to hell I'm tellin'
you. They had water faucets with strict
orders not to use water, but I'm full
of shit so I take my pants off, wash
them. Here's this 90-day wonder second
lieutenant there caught me. I said,
"I just shit all over myself.
I had to wash." That's no excuse.
I'm gonna turn you in."
This was an American?
Yeah, an American officer, lieutenant,
90-day wonder. So he went up to the
officer's barracks, told them what
happened and they said well bring
them in and asked me my side. I told
them I said, 'I got one pair of pants,
I got the shits I said I fell down,
I shit all over myself there's a water
faucet that way, I washed my pants."
He said "Well you know you're
not supposed to use water." I
said "I know, but sir, I had
to do something, I had to have clean
clothes." He said "Well,
hell, Lieutenant, you wanna be that
way about it you go ahead and punish
him." So we got back to the barracks,
he says "Alright we're gonna
put you on half rations." The
guy looked at him said "You crazy?
We're only getting half rations."
"It's alright, he disobeyed a
direct order." So they put me
on half rations. Time come to give
half rations, here comes a guy - spoon
of rice, another guy - spoon of rice.
See, there was thoughtfulness among
the guys themselves and they sacrificed
themselves to make sure I got my share
of rice. The lieutenant didn't see
that.
So were you sticking by your
buddies from here and Ft. Bliss that
you'd known?
My own outfit, I don't know what happened
to them. I never seen any of them
after we left Corregidor, I never
seen them anymore. Guys from the 60th
and some other outfits had got here,
but I was in more with the 200th and
the 515th throughout the Cabanatuan
days.
Why was that?
I don't know, see I don't know what
happened. I couldn't find any of the
guys, none of them. See, some of them
were sent to some other camp down
in the southern part of the island.
I never made contact with my outfit
until some time last year, a guy by
the name of Smith I met in Ft. Bliss.
Anyway, I was in mostly with the guys
from the 200th and the 515th.
What were they like?
I knew a bunch of them from here [Las
Cruces] before the war. They didn't
get over there till November of '41.
But a bunch of them I knew. Cruz Garcia,
he's dead now, Lecho [Lorenzo] Banegas,
a whole bunch I knew. And I met up
with this buddy, this guy from Belen.
His name was Benny Valencia. He was
state champion boxer before the war
and he'd been in the highway patrol.
But I got buddy buddy with him. He
was a big guy, but he got down pretty
thin. They made up a bunch of details.
They told us we could put in a garden
and we were going to get vegetables
from the garden, we were gonna go
half and half. Well, the good stuff
that grew on the bottom was their
half, the stuff on top was our half.
Like sweet potatoes, they got the
[sweet potatoes], we got the sweet
potato vines. Tastes something like
spinach. It was pretty fair.
How
were the Japanese eating?
They ate pretty damn good. Well, a
bunch of guys for them getting extra
rice so they must have been doing
pretty good. And then they butchered
carabao, they got the meat, we got
the bones. So they were doing pretty
good. I got out of the first detail.
It was carabao detail. Well, they
used the carabao to plow. And there
was a guy, a buddy of mine, Julio
Barela was with me on that detail.
He is still living in Fairacres.
How were you able to work...?
When you got a bayonet up your hind
end and a bunch of clubs around, you
just go. I don't know how, but you
just go. But this was pretty easy
detail. See, you could only work a
carabao for a couple hours and you
had to put them in a mud hole and
get another carabao and go on. Then
you had a damn stupid Jap up there
with a bayonet, poking the damn carabao
in the ass if he didn't move fast
enough. But me and Julio got around
pretty good on that detail. We had
a good guard, we called him Donald
Duck. He asked us what Donald Duck
meant. "He's a movie star in
Hollywood." If he ever found
out he was a duck, it would've been
something else. But he would let us
smuggle sweet potatoes onto camp.
He'd give us a break out there, which
very seldom they'd do.
Why do you think he did that?
I don't know. He looked like a young
kid. He was real good, never cussed
us, never hollered at us and he'd
give us the butt off a cigarette and
stuff like that. He'd give us a break,
build us a fire. But if another Jap
came around then he'd act meaner.
But I think that he was forced into
the thing itself and he didn't like
it. I think he knew the score himself
but he had to do what he was ordered,
you know. All I could say about him
was he was good, he treated us good.
We had other details, they put us
pulling weeds. One day I remember
this guy Benny Valencia was with me.
They beat me. I wasn't pulling weeds
fast enough or talking or something
and they came up and beat the hell
out of me and hit me with a rifle
butt in the face and shoulder.
Was that the first time you'd been
beaten?
That's the worst beating I got. They
he hit me across the back with a pick
handle and I heard a snap and I went
unconscious. Well, I woke up in what
they call the hospital area and boy
my back was screwed up. So I stayed
there for seven days and they sent
me back to the barracks. But Benny
Valencia was with me. He'd seen them
do it. Then they put me on so-called
light duty, which was the carabao
detail with Donald Duck again.
They
issued us what they call g-strings.
That's that piece of string you pull
around and put a rag up there. That
was all the clothes we had. When we
ran out of shoes, we used to make
what they call go-aheads, piece of
wood, bout the size of your foot,
get a rag, nail it here and here that's
what you wore. Those were the only
shoes we had. You had to make do.
You had to make uniforms from what
clothes we had. They had to last.
Then we started getting bed bugs.
Then we got body lice. We slept on
bamboo slats. The barracks were made
okay like this. They had what the
call bottom bay, both sides divided
into seven-man tiers with slats. They
did give us a blanket and that's what
protected us little bit from the slats.
Put half down under you, and half
over top of you.
Bed bugs, I tell you, you could bang
a slat and it'd be black from bed
bugs, so they got to where they gave
us 50 gallon drums and you fill them
so full of water. They put wooden
platform in there. They fill it with
water, boil it. You put your clothes
in it, your blankets everything in
there and the steam would kill the
lice and everything. You could take
your pants, like this and there'd
be bed bugs. I mean fleas and lice
- gray backs we called them - in the
seams and they'd just eat you raw.
So once a week you got to steam the
clothes you had. On the farm detail,
we wouldn't wear our clothes, kept
them to put on at night to keep warm.
We'd just wear the damn g-strings.
Ward Redshaw
One of my jobs was in the medical
service. I was also chief anesthesiologist.
What my job was, was to sit on people
who were going to have a limb taken
off, or anything painful. I would
have my little piece of wood and keep
it in his mouth and sit on his chest
as they were taking off his leg or
what not.
David Johns
We had some officers that were so
chicken that they wouldn't back you
or wouldn't say nothing or anything.
We had one major there in Lipa we
called horseface. He'd stay over on
the Japanese side. He wouldn't stay
with us. The Japanese were feeding
him. He was a big jeffe. We were just
barely getting along. He had a dog
about that big and this dog would
be running behind him wherever he
went. And the dog was real fat. So
he - the dog - was eating better than
we were. One night that dog got over
into our compound and we caught him.
We had 55-gallon drums of water that
we used to dip water out to bathe.
We stuck him in the drum and he gurgled
for about ten minutes and that was
it. We butchered him out. We had what
was called a quan pot. We cut him
up and put him in the quan pot with
rice or lugao or corn or anything
we could get. We ate anything that
came along. We ate carabao, lizard.
Hell
Ships
Ruben Flores
From Cabantuan prison, they took us
to the docks and put us on ships -
in the holds where they used to transport
coal, at the bottom (of the ship).
There was no beds, no nothing. They
put us in there; they kept putting
us in until we couldn't move. They
loaded us in three different ships.
From there we got to Hong Kong. The
reason we got to Hong Kong is because
there were two Japanese troops ships
and five POW ships and the Americans
started torpedoing us. They don't
know there were POWs in those ships.
I understand they got all three of
the Japanese troops and all but ours
was damaged.
They would lower a honey bucket and
they'd pick it up whenever they felt
like it. And when they'd do that,
they didn't care how they hauled it
up, so you can just imagine the thing
splattering. It got real hot in there.
There was the only time I saw the
brutality amongst us. There was a
time in the darkness in the hold,
and you can imagine how dark it would
get at night. There was one POW that
was killed, and sliced in the throat
just to drink the blood. That's how
thirsty we were. From then on, everyone
slept back to back, guarding each
other's back. There was so much yelling,
crying, moaning.
Mike
Pulice
We were four or five miles off shore
when a submarine sank us. The torpedo
hit the rear of the ship. I happened
to be in a hammock and the cover just
blew off and came back down and hit
me. That' s when I got my leg messed
up. We were all in the water and most
of us could swim. But there were only
83 of us that made it to shore. It
took me from about 4 o'clock in the
afternoon when we got hit, and I made
it into shore the next day about 10
o'clock in the morning. By the time
I got up to the deck it had already
listed enough that I didn't have to
jump off the ship. I just swam off.
I could see the Japanese motor launches.
They had machine guns, one on the
front part and one on the back. They
were shooting everybody that was in
the water that they could see. That's
when I got under the hatch cover.
One of the Japanese guards saw us,
and he was determined that he was
going to kill us. He was going to
bayonet us. We just held him under
until he quit bubbling, and then let
him go. The next morning the Filipinos
came out about five hundred yards
from shore in a dugout and put me
in it. I could see, we were out about
4 or 5 miles out. By the time I could
see the glare from bonfires they had
all along the shore. I crawled up
on the hatch cover a slept a while.
What woke me up was I could hear an
airplane looking to see if anyone
was alive. I went under the hatch
cover and when he was gone, I started
swimming to shore. They never even
took me out of that darn dug out.
They just picked it up and took me
into the jungle.
We
had a contingency of Americans helping
the Filipinos. That was September
7 and 22 days later a submarine got
us out of there. We went to Windy
Island, and stayed at a naval hospital.
In November, I came back and went
under the bridge in San Francisco
three years to the day [after I left].
I got back a year before the rest
of them did.
Prison
camps in Japan
Winston Shillito
We wound up at Yokohama. We had an
interpreter that had been born and
raised in Vancouver. and graduated
from the University of Washington.
This man spoke fluent English of course,
but not a lot of Japanese. He was
not popular with the Japanese and
was quartered with the Japanese troops
that were overseeing us. The Japanese
eventually killed him. They cut his
head off for being sympathetic.
We had one man, from Artesia, Tony
King, that learned to read Japanese
script. He kept us pretty much informed
on what was going on from the Japanese
viewpoint. We kind of had an idea
of the progress of the war. We could
see that the Americans were winning
the war. But we couldn't predict anything.
Sabotage
David Johns
We built air fields. We'd mix our
own concrete and we'd take great big
palm leaves and put over a hole, a
big hole, and cement it over. And
they'd come out and inspect it and
it'd look pretty good and after a
while they started using the runways.
A plane'd come in and land and it'd
hit one of those holes there that
we had a palm leaf over and it'd flip
it. Of course, they'd blame us for
it, but we figured that's one plane
that's not going to bomb the Americans.
Ruben
Flores
We did sabotage anything we could
at any time. Their trucks - we used
to throw sand in their gas tanks.
Weldon
Hamilton
We were always fighting the Japanese.
Anything we did to make things difficult
for them was fair game. In the mine
I worked in under the ocean, when
the pumps quit the mine would fill
up from the bottom with water. So
the B-29's came over and put the electricity
out. So the mine starts filling up
from the bottom. They send us down
to the bottom floor to try to save
the big electrical equipment down
there.
We were supposed to drag these things
out. The guys would get in to their
neck and woller around and pretend
like they was trying to pull on that
thing but they really wouldn't be
pulling. We would just be laughing
because those big machines were going
under water.
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